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April 20, 2005


This is a neat idea Scott.

I rode a CG two evenings ago (just around the block), and it was a very nice ride.

I just took delivery of my Goodrich day rider/century bike two weeks ago, and it's a dream come true. The frame is brazed and lugged, but using a modern lug set that accomdates oversize tubing. My LBS said it went together perfectly. The ride is sublime at every speed and effort level: the bike is happy putzing along on a warm evening, but goes like a rocket when I feel like hammering. Plus it's super purty with the Pete Wiegle paint, R. Sachs Newvex lugs and Rivendell style double plate fork crown. If I put a superlight set of racing wheels on it it would weigh about 18 pounds with a real steel fork, and this baby will still be rideable 40 years from now unless the SUV of doom gets us both (bike is currently built with '05 Campy Chorus with an FSA compact carbon crank; with a strong set of 32 spoke clinchers it weighs right around 19 pounds). Plenty of room for fat tires, I can break a spoke and ride it home thanks to generous fork and stay clearances, and no rust ever thanks to Wiegle Framesaver! Carbon, Ti and Aluminum are valid materials, but nothing is versatile, comfortable and durable like steel. Thanks again, Curt.

How come BG and RS get a dizen comments, but Curt only gets two, now three? Where are all the Riv owners and Match-built Schwinn owners singing his praises?

I don't know either. I outed this one to the RBW List too so it's a mystery.

Maybe they're all too busy bag-matching? ;-]

-Me (Large Fella)

Maybe there's less to this "Rivendell Cult" business than meets the eye.

there is no rivendell cult; it was simply a catty remark. no need to take it seriously or disect it.

Hey Big Fella

I posted the pix of my Goodrich on Jims Blog. I need to send him more but the blue one with the intricate lugs at the bottom is my wife's. I will send pix of the complete bike.



Wow! Whose bike is the Herse blue one with the box lining? Prettiest paint I've ever seen!

First I really enjoy your webpage...NICELY done...congrats.

Since you have an Atlantis, I was wondering if you (or your bike buds) could help in my indecision between a Riv Saluki or an Atlantis as the best choice for my needs.

I have a lead on a good deal for a slightly used Atlantis in my 51" (26 inch wheels) frame, but am also considering the newer Saluki.

I currently have a 47" Surly Cross Check with 700cc wheels…and going to a ''lesser'' wheel size like the 26" in the Atlantis (I take a 51" frame)
is a bit strange feeling….although owners have mentioned that changing up a cog or front ring to get a similarly high ratio from a 700cc wheel is no problem.

I mostly would be using whichever bike for commutes, wkend century
rides and the occasional loaded tour…most of my riding is done on roads and to a lesser extent backroads.

When riding unloaded I do love to go fast on occasion (don't we all?) so having a
touring geometry bike that is also 'sluggish' when unloaded isn't to my liking (although I realize I can change rims & tires to help with this issue).

I guess I want a robust, versatile and sprightly ''all rounder''

If you (or any Saluki owners of your bike circle) can add their own 2 cents, it would be appreciated.

Some folks have cautioned me that the availability of 650 wheels are not as great
in some parts of the world.


Hey Joe (nod to Jimi Hendrix!),

My .04 cents follows...

1. 650b is the rage right now but keep in mind, it's the rage among maybe 200-300 cycle riders period. I would guess not many more even know about that size here in the US of A or that it's much more than a distant something or rather from the days gone by of French cycling.

2. It's pure myth that 26 inchers are "mountain bike tires/wheels and ONLY that" and it bugs me endlessly. They became associated with mtb.'s because folks & companies like Joe Breeze, Specialized, Gary Fisher, etc spec'd them on the first mtb's as they actually used old cruiser balloon-type wheels & tires to get in, around and over the terrain... and they took hold as such. Rightfully so to a degree as 26 inchers (or as I prefer to call 'em 559mm) work in many different circumstances. Of course as we're now seeing with very wide 700c's also called "29 inch", they roll over very diverse terrain and are a preferred wheel size for wilderness riders.

3. Myth again... "Touring Bikes and/or their geometry is slow/sluggish". I hear and see this all the time. So not true. Take off the panniers, the racks, swap out the wheelset (if you must) and it'll go as fast as your level of conditioning allows... unless of course you're Lance or Jan or some other pro-level racer and you *have* to keep up with the Jones'.

On a personal note- going fast is fun but precisely how slow do you think a slightly wider tire and relaxed seattube is going to make you?? It's marketing hype and based on your worries you are dangeriously close to buying into it (no offense intended).

4. 26 makes about 100000000000000000% more sense than 650b if you want "one cycle for doing many different things". You can ride the size quick/fast, you can go off-road with less worries, you can ride centuries and lastly... you can go fulled loaded touring on it. It's a stronger wheel overall, more versatile and most importantly... it's available everywhere, in all forms, all configurations and with more tire/rim selection than you'll ever see in 650b.

Buy the Atlantis... it's what you need.

PS- Thanks for the nice comments on the blog...


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